Even inside our church movement it seems we are overly focused on new emergant/emerging theories and models. We work very hard to be current (or hip).
I must admit that I believe much of our hoopla over post-modernity and emerging philosophy is a fad. Every generation has experienced some level of rejection of its parents values and has fought for a revolution of sorts. And now its targeting the church. But the church is resilient... and does change, albeit slowly. The very natural flow of things is for the church to trail culture just a bit but it is turning with culture a generation at a time. The type of church I grew up in during the 60's and 70's no longer exists (much to my parents dismay). Simply because of the evolutionary nature of the church. Church is now run by leaders who grew up in a different culture with different worldviews and mindsets than my parents did... and the leaders that follow me will also bring with them their worldviews and values. And the church will change... and adapt.
My point is, don't try so hard to be post-modern... or to be cool. Just do what you do the way you do it... do what God told you to do... and nothing more... and nothing less. There is room in the culture for the way you were made...
Culture always has a front edge and a back edge and there are people at every point in between. And they all need Jesus. You do not have to force yourself into a poorly fitting mold to be relevant... just serve the people that are drawn to you and the culture of the church will take care of itself. GOD will present her...
Thursday, June 26, 2008
Counter Culture?
Still thinking about the last comments about the counter-culture church. I don't actually read the gospels and see counter-culture as the theme. Jesus seemed to work from within the culture. He maintained his jewish lifestyle including temple worship. In Matthew 26 Jesus asserts that he sat in the temple courts everyday to teach. He told stories that were relevant culturally to make his point.
I think we will have more impact working from within the existing culture than establishing a counter-culture. A counter-culture movement creates a bubble that the culture can ignore as a freak show. But kingdom people salted through the existing systems can actually change culture. You can't change what you're not involved with.
I think we will have more impact working from within the existing culture than establishing a counter-culture. A counter-culture movement creates a bubble that the culture can ignore as a freak show. But kingdom people salted through the existing systems can actually change culture. You can't change what you're not involved with.
Love For the Bride
It seems like every book on the church that I read anymore is angry... that it perceives the church to be so broken that it just needs to be blown up and rebuilt ground up. There is an element of counter-culture and revolution in this ideology.
We have forgotten who the church is... the bride of Christ... his beloved.
I am fully aware of the faults in my wife... but I love here completely. I can talk to her and encourage her to change in some way and she will respond because she know she is loved as she is. But if somebody else is critical or points out her flaws then I am incensed and rise up to protect her.
Ephesians 5:25-27
25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
Who does the correcting? Who washes her and cleanses her and prepares her? Christ does... he makes her blameless and without blemish... she doesn't do it on her own. And Christ is the only one who can... he's the one who loves her enough to change her gently.
If we don't love the church the way Jesus loves the church then we don't have the privelage to criticize or correct her. Fix the part you are involved in but be gentle and loving toward the body or your voice rings hollow.
We have forgotten who the church is... the bride of Christ... his beloved.
I am fully aware of the faults in my wife... but I love here completely. I can talk to her and encourage her to change in some way and she will respond because she know she is loved as she is. But if somebody else is critical or points out her flaws then I am incensed and rise up to protect her.
Ephesians 5:25-27
25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
Who does the correcting? Who washes her and cleanses her and prepares her? Christ does... he makes her blameless and without blemish... she doesn't do it on her own. And Christ is the only one who can... he's the one who loves her enough to change her gently.
If we don't love the church the way Jesus loves the church then we don't have the privelage to criticize or correct her. Fix the part you are involved in but be gentle and loving toward the body or your voice rings hollow.
Change of Plans
Prov 16:9 In his heart a man plans his course,
but the LORD determines his steps.
I was talking to a local pastor who is struggling a little with how we are to let God 'build the house' and the role we play in strategizing and planning. I think I have a better answer for that than I ever have. I have been much that way in the past... a problem solver... feeling like I had to fix everything and pursue a well defined plan in order to build a church. But the truth is that I was rarely as successful as I expected to be... falling short each time of the vision God had given me. And yet feeling like we were off course if the plans got changed.
It is becoming clear to me that we are to plan and strategize everything in our power... and then pray and expect God to intervene and change our plans. To celebrate him changing them. Because if he doesn't change them we are simply limited to the best we can figure out and accomplish on our own...and I have already proven that the best I can accomplish will still have limited impact. But if he does change my plans then we are beginning to function at a supernatural level and have superceded our own abilities and talents.
but the LORD determines his steps.
I was talking to a local pastor who is struggling a little with how we are to let God 'build the house' and the role we play in strategizing and planning. I think I have a better answer for that than I ever have. I have been much that way in the past... a problem solver... feeling like I had to fix everything and pursue a well defined plan in order to build a church. But the truth is that I was rarely as successful as I expected to be... falling short each time of the vision God had given me. And yet feeling like we were off course if the plans got changed.
It is becoming clear to me that we are to plan and strategize everything in our power... and then pray and expect God to intervene and change our plans. To celebrate him changing them. Because if he doesn't change them we are simply limited to the best we can figure out and accomplish on our own...and I have already proven that the best I can accomplish will still have limited impact. But if he does change my plans then we are beginning to function at a supernatural level and have superceded our own abilities and talents.
Sunday, June 8, 2008
This is what I moved for...
This was a very special week in the life of South Bay Vineyard Church. On Saturday we had 15 people show up at the San Diego Food Bank in north county. In a little over 90 minutes we were able to assemble and pack 500 food boxes to be delivered to seniors in need throughout San Diego.
Then later that same afternoon we went to Crown Point in Mission Bay Park. There we had the pleasure of baptizing three of our friends into the body of Christ...
They also have the distinction of being the first baptisms performed by our young church making it doubly exciting. We then celebrated with food and play and great stories of what God is doing.
This week is the debut of "The Powder Room". The girls are trying to one-up the guys...
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Baptism
Our regular Sunday evening gathering this weekend experienced a powerful move of God.
As we began to pray for healing over one of our members the presence of God was very heavy. Pockets of ministry began to break out all over the room as people would begin to weep and others would rally around them. This continued for several hours... just as I would think we were finished it would start back up again.
Most exciting of all was that three people made public first time commitments to Christ.
We will be celebrating these decisions with baptism in Mission Bay on Saturday.
As we began to pray for healing over one of our members the presence of God was very heavy. Pockets of ministry began to break out all over the room as people would begin to weep and others would rally around them. This continued for several hours... just as I would think we were finished it would start back up again.
Most exciting of all was that three people made public first time commitments to Christ.
We will be celebrating these decisions with baptism in Mission Bay on Saturday.
Road Trip
This past Sunday morning we loaded up around 14 people and drove the 2 hour trip to the Anaheim Vineyard Church. I was hoping it would give everyone a much bigger picture and vision than what we could communicate in our little home church.
The affect was much greater than I had hoped... the sense of connection to the larger body was powerful and impacted them more than I could have imagined.
During the worship time several of our group began to weep as the Holy Spirit moved on them. The teaching itself felt like it was prepared for us... about the importance of each member of the body... and each one that we took received personal ministry during the ministry time.
When we got everybody together later that evening each one shared what they had seen and experienced. Some reported feeling weak in the knees and a 'lightness' in their body. Others talked of uncontrollable tears. One said he felt 'electricity' go through his body when he received prayer... but all came away saying "Let's do this here in San Diego."
The affect was much greater than I had hoped... the sense of connection to the larger body was powerful and impacted them more than I could have imagined.
During the worship time several of our group began to weep as the Holy Spirit moved on them. The teaching itself felt like it was prepared for us... about the importance of each member of the body... and each one that we took received personal ministry during the ministry time.
When we got everybody together later that evening each one shared what they had seen and experienced. Some reported feeling weak in the knees and a 'lightness' in their body. Others talked of uncontrollable tears. One said he felt 'electricity' go through his body when he received prayer... but all came away saying "Let's do this here in San Diego."
Momentum
Our infant church is enjoying a great sense of momentum here in south San Diego.
Most of the people who have been gathering with us these few weeks have little previous church background and almost all of them indicated they had never imagined themselves involved in church.
Now just 6 weeks into it those same people are complaining that its too long between Sunday's and have been the catalysts for two new mid-week discipleship groups.
We are still looking towards the Fall for a formal launch but we are in full church building mode already and seeing God do incredible things in some wonderful people.
Most of the people who have been gathering with us these few weeks have little previous church background and almost all of them indicated they had never imagined themselves involved in church.
Now just 6 weeks into it those same people are complaining that its too long between Sunday's and have been the catalysts for two new mid-week discipleship groups.
We are still looking towards the Fall for a formal launch but we are in full church building mode already and seeing God do incredible things in some wonderful people.
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